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desertdawg
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Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120694 - Tue Apr 24 2001 03:47 PM

hey, wassup, marc?

why do you take the time to delete posts, but not respond to legitimate, polite questions?

you are losing customers FAST (if you care). even the most loyal are going elsewhere...

(this post will be deleted soon, keep your eye on it)...

ddawg

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Marc Scott EmeryAdministrator
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120775 - Tue Apr 24 2001 06:20 PM

First of all, we are not losing customers at all. We have never had so much interest in the seeds we sell. Any problems experienced can be dealt with if the complainants stay polite, but once they become abusive or begin posting heated, crazed rhetoric, then we terminate any interest in dealing with that person. I find this abusive behaviour unfathomable considering we have their address and pertinent details of what they are doing but somehow feel they can abuse us and provoke us. I wouldn't be doing that to anyone I had sent written proof to that I was growing marijuana/requesting marijuana seeds.

Fortunately, we have never had to resort to dealing severly with miscreants who don't understand their self-incrimination.

Marc Emery - Moderator

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DAWEEDKING
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120800 - Tue Apr 24 2001 07:13 PM

"Fortunately, we have never had to resort to dealing severly with miscreants who don't understand their self-incrimination".........I think you just sent the "movement" back ten years

DaWeedKing

www.daweedking.com
L E G A L I Z E



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BobGreen
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120802 - Tue Apr 24 2001 07:17 PM

Marc ,I'm not getting involved with all this shit slinging that's going on but saying we have all your details and proof that your growing sounds like a threat.I think I've read what you've written incorrectly, or you've expressed yourself rather badly.

Could you clear up your above post, it sounds like your threating to turn people in. I know you would'nt do that.

As for not loosing customers I think you will loose customers from this, but you could probably afford to loose a thousand customers and you won't feel the effects of it.

The whole situation on the boards is getting out of hand in a big way, people carrying on like idiots and posts being deleted there's bad on both sides.

Just my opinion.

Take it easy
Bob

BobGreen aka Lester Burnham

Edited by BobGreen on 4/24/01 07:25 PM.



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3blindmice
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120805 - Tue Apr 24 2001 07:19 PM

No he hasn't. Marc is just separating the shwag from the real shit, which is actually advancing the movement. I wouldn't want my chat forums polluted with the ramblings of bored aggressive potheads. BTW, if PurpleDurban reads this post, your last post was the most wishy washy statement I've read so far. Your previous contempt has not gone unnoticed. Just an observation.



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BobGreen
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120809 - Tue Apr 24 2001 07:33 PM

3blindmice if someone said to me I have your address and evidence of cultivation and I do'nt like your attitude, I'ld take that as a threat in a big way, can you see it from my point of view?.

Basically shut up or else, that's not good, maybe I'm reading something into it, maybe I'm just to sensitive.

When I edited the post above I just added about the loss of customers and the bad situation on the boards.

I have no gripes with anyone on the boards and do'nt want to get drawn into this so please no attacking me this is just my opinion, I may be right but I may be wrong. I'm just sitting on the fence watching the traffic go past :)

Take it easy.

Bob

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stinky
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120810 - Tue Apr 24 2001 07:36 PM

uhhh, what?

How does this ....

From Emery Seeds.

For your security, we keep track of the orders with the initials of the name and the name of the city or town it is going to. A typical record looks like this:

TH - Calgary - in August 26 - out August 28


translate into this?

"we have their address and pertinent details of what they are doing"

wtf, over?

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PurpleDurban
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120815 - Tue Apr 24 2001 07:49 PM

I am glad that my previous "contempt" has not gone unnoticed, oh yeah....Websters defines contempt thusly:1."the feelings or actions of a person toward someone or something that he considers low,worthless or beneath notice 2. "The condition of being despised or scorned" and 3. (only in the case of a court trial)"The punishable act of showing disrespect for the authority or dignity of a court or legislature"

Okay....so have I ever said that Marc was worthless or low? No. Have I claimed that I despise Marc or harbor scorn? No. Have I shown disrespect? Perhaps, but never outside of the context of my own wacky opinion.

I mean, thats great and everything that you have so nobly policed my opinions to note that they have been noted-I am very flattered. However, what about those posts I composed telling people that there are manifold steps in the shipment of these sensitive items:and that things can go wrong at each. Or the post that I ended by proclaiming CAVEAT EMPTOR-buyer beware. In other words, shit happens. I am troubled that you are focusing on the negative. If nothing else I have strived to be as moderate as possible in my assesment-offerring up the good and bad of the various community problems we have experienced AS I SEE IT.

I am also disturbed that you need to tack silly names onto my opinions. As if wishy-washy really describes anything. I would appreciate it if you would please be more sensitive to the realities of my attitude because I am not here to stir it up. Let me note that this is the first time that I or the ideas that I have voiced here have been called a name-why is it necessary at all? After all you are only perpetuating the endless, pointless flame wars. Gladly, I will not be returning your flame. And hey, why not PM me next time you want to put me down? Peace.



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k_shar
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120819 - Tue Apr 24 2001 08:05 PM

So, what's the best strain to mellow out with?

Green Goddess

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3blindmice
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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120820 - Tue Apr 24 2001 08:13 PM

BobGreen,

I can totally see how that might be interpreted as a warning but not as a threat. Maybe I'm stupid, but I don't think Marc is going to do anything to me. I'm nobobdy and I've given him no reason to do so. When I was in high school I edited and published an underground newspaper in which I did not censor anything. And lo and behold, it failed because people abused the freedom of speech. It was a bloodbath and the furthest thing from my vision of a thoughtful, free publication. The same thing happened here. I totally sympathize with Marc, and it's a harsh but very real situation that he has to deal with--censorship. But I believe that when the person who is pure of heart is the one who censors, he has everyone's GOOD intentions in mind. That's all. I'm not afraid of his knowing my IP.

I just thought of the perfect analogy. You know, if Marc was a pot dealer and people paged him on the hour every hour for the past week and then started leaving obscene, abusive messages and calling him repeatedly, those people would never ever score again from him, whether or not the dealer truly owed him anything. I'm not saying that Marc is a "pot dealer", but he is a dealer of sorts, and he has to protect himself. The way these people, who have probably been banned by now, and for that reason I won't bring up their names, abused the forums reminds me of a pothead jonesing for weed and paging his dealer and getting no response; the dealer simply doesn't have and calling him more is going to piss him off. He has no gripe with you, not the other way around--that's why he sells to you. And he doesn't care where he gets the money for his weed, as long as you don't annoy him and you're not a heat score. Anyway, I've made my point. I don't want to speak for Marc Emery, but I was compelled to balance the liable with reality. My next post on this forum will relate to seeds and strains. Thanks.



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senna
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showing your true colors?
      #120859 - Wed Apr 25 2001 12:05 AM

>> "considering we have their address and pertinent details of what they are doing but somehow feel they can abuse us and provoke us. I wouldn't be doing that to anyone I had sent written proof to that I was growing marijuana/requesting marijuana seeds."

"Fortunately, we have never had to resort to dealing severly with miscreants who don't understand their self-incrimination".
Marc Emery - Moderator

this is what i would call a threat!
damn glad i never ordered seeds from you.

"With each post, cookies go into each computer and it allows us to track where the message comes from. Abusive comments are deleted, then the abusive posters are banned, then we give source IP to computer specialists if there is continued abuse"
Marc Emery - Moderator

so your going block every ip? pick a proxy any proxy ,
if somebody really wanted to they
could post all day everyday and short of closing the site
there little that could be done to stop them.
i`ve sat here holding my tongue since i don`t order seeds
and watched this play itself out over the yrs. even when a
very good/well known poster had strange results with a sensiseed strain that had all the markings of a being an F2knockoff i didn`t say anything,yet strange when a buddy grew the same strain he had very even growth/patterns and none of the problems "......" had it makes you wonder. then the reports of no seeds/bad service ect really seem to happen more and more and whoever said a bad word would be attack by the posters as sour grapes ect....

then behold the you appear as the post are deleted and you
threaten your buyers about having addresses ect....
maybe all the bad reports are on to something? hmm kinda makes you wonder.
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and see if you can block them all.
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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120862 - Wed Apr 25 2001 12:27 AM

personally I'd take a lot less shit from these cretins than Marc does. The statement wasn't the best thing to say, but we all have our moments. Besides who's dumb enough to give a real address?

I've huge respect for the guy, just seeing all the good he's done, and will gladly stand with him, anytime, in support of the cause.. Can you say the same for others in the business? None come close..

Pot makes you feel better? What the hell's the matter with that?

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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120901 - Wed Apr 25 2001 04:31 AM

All these needy clowns seem to think that Marc's business lives and dies with the Internet. You can flame him all you want and you won't hurt is business.

His magazine is seen by a shitload more people than this site.



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desertdawg
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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120902 - Wed Apr 25 2001 04:46 AM

Thanks for the reply,marc, i feel better now...

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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120904 - Wed Apr 25 2001 05:39 AM

Buddy his business IS the internet. This is how he stays in the seed business. I find it Very hard to believe that more folks see the mag than come to the website.


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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120912 - Wed Apr 25 2001 06:16 AM

this is one grower whom you dont have their address and never ever will mr emery ..my one time respect for you has now turned to contempt ..how can you call yourself a politician and want to speak for the people when you cant even let the people speak for themselves?that sounds very hippocritical to me ...what would happen at a political rally if someone was there mocking you or said something you didnt like ? would you have them silenced marc?would you delete them too..?i cannot believe the comments that you have recently made on this forum..this bullshit went on for weeks and u did nothing ..u stood by and let it gain momentum..and your answer to the problem is to cover it all up ? make it all dissappear ? threaten all, everyone one who speaks out against you ..with turning them in ..?.......wow this is bigger than just a few deleted post ..this is news ..i wonder if the CBC would be interested in something like this?how long before that election marc?



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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120927 - Wed Apr 25 2001 07:12 AM

sounds like a rat. go ahead MARC and rat me out. the pigs will get to the addy and find no growshow. then i will visit B.C.
you used to have a comic book store in london. you were a dishonest person then and i see your still the same way. marc emery= crimestoppers.



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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120929 - Wed Apr 25 2001 07:29 AM

Has Marc gone over to the other side? What exactly are you saying here? Wow, that would be really far out! Talk about paranoia - gotta stop smoking that Haze!



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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120934 - Wed Apr 25 2001 07:43 AM

CC magazine has a circulation of what? 40,000 or something.

This site has maybe 1,000 regulars, and a bunch of teenage trolls.

Marc does way more business than his competitors BECAUSE of his magazine.



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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120935 - Wed Apr 25 2001 07:44 AM

Hey Mr. Emery , in my neck of the woods we call people like you a RAT! You can sugar coat this bullshit all you want , but when people make comments like i know where you live and i know what you are doing , thats just plain and simple RAT talk. Ive always said you were just a poser looking to get famous through the movement. Now youve proved it to all.How can someone call themselves a leader when all they can do in response to critisisem is threaten people.Like somone said you were a scamer when you owned the bookstore and these thing just dont change. P.S. To all reading this post i would think twice before sending your address to Emery seeds after a threat like that!

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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120964 - Wed Apr 25 2001 09:36 AM

excuse me but i couldn't help noticing, like some of my fellow men and woman, that what marc just outwardly and blatantly said was a blunt realization of his character. so you wanna turn US into the pigs huh marc? god damn marc you are very low (i might have made comments about you, but i would have never turned YOU, or anyone i dont like at that, in to the pigs) and shallow "POLITICIAN"

your running for a political seat in the B.C. Provincial Election's, i can only imagine "what change" would happen! would all outward opposer's of your office be "silenced" like hitler "silenced" the jews and the "miscreants", who by the way were people who saw the TRUTH.

YOU threating US is a damn shame, cuz YOU have just become what we all fight against, you have become the PIG!!!!! if this is how you deal with customers (who were robbed by you might i add), then the people of B.C. got something bad coming! that is of course IF you make office!

the things YOU have said, oh excuse me, i mean the things you have ordered us to do are a direct reflection of who you are as a man. and as that man you are a very egotistical, selfcentered, shallow, powertrippin, POLITICALY greed monged, and lost individual! exactly opposite of all those "good" things you put your self out to be!!! it's a shame when your a fake, it really is, cuz you have the control of braindead, low self esteemed individuals who will follow you in your nightmarish agendas (polpot,hitler,saddam,stalin,etc,etc..)

the truth is out there marc, and your time is coming to an end!! you should have been real, instead you let money, and power get the best of you. the sad thing is you were a fake all along portrayed as a hero for all these years, now you can truely ACT the part of a villain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120982 - Wed Apr 25 2001 10:19 AM

This thread has changed my whole view.... I think ill be getting my information from a forum that doesnt have moderators that threaten to expose your illegal doings... My god. Thanks for opening my eyes everyone... Im still shocked... Peace to you all.

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Re: showing your true colors?
      #120986 - Wed Apr 25 2001 10:34 AM

WOW, He is a rat too... I told you then, " the consumer will prevail.. I've been quietly persuading new members to purchase from your competitors. I'd like to think I'm personally responsible for your drop in status at the seedbankupdate.. But I'm not that callous... But I'll take it anyway I can.
How sweet it is, your shady dealings are costing you your longtime members... Its only a matter of time when we play taps for you. Hawking inferior genetics, ratting on customers, selling knockoffs...
You never fail to amaze.
I told you so.

I agree with the member who pointed out you've got an address but not my grow.. if leo comes to that house, I'll know. I'll make it my meaning in life to visit BC and show you how much you mean to me..

This has gone too far.. Overgrow and Gypsy here I come.. I encourage all members dissatisfied with the present state of affairs here to migrate to Overgrow, and purchase from Gypsy...





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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #120997 - Wed Apr 25 2001 10:57 AM

Thanks for helping us out here Marc. You've been able to accomplish what non of your unhappy seed customers were trying to do: Wake people up and open their eyes! Thanks again for all of your assistance in this matter. I guess some people needed to hear it directly from the horses mouth (or some such related animal).
And by the way Foam, I'm dumb enough to have given my real address simply because I had so many problems with delivery on my last 3 orders. I thought maybe having the seeds shipped directly to my home addy would solve one of the potential problems. It did'nt - suppossedly shiped this last order 3 times but still not here (I'm no longer runnin' to check the mail first thing - Pavlov's dog unlearns slowly- I know it's not gonna arrive).



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Re: Marc cuaght in avalanche?? news at 11...
      #121007 - Wed Apr 25 2001 11:18 AM

Whats he going to say? I sold Marijuana seeds to So and so. "I sold" is saying plaese come and get me to. Selling Marijuana seeds to the US is a Felony. He wont say shit if he wants to stay out of jail. I have a Dr. note so yes I grow pot, LEGALY!! so I ready don't care what he says to whom.
I don't take threats lightly and I sure no one will when it comes to prison.

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