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> POT TV
WANTS SUE ROGERS FOR AN INTERVIEW AND TO POST HER PHOTOS
> OF
MICK MOLLICA AND PROSECUTORS CONSPIRING TO GUT PROP. 215 AND HARASS
BONA
> FIDE PATIENTS.
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> Please contact Steve
Kubby at 604-885-7651 or steve@kubby.com
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> As quoted
in the Sacramento Bee:
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> Sue Rodger is living proof
that one citizen with a camera can cause a lot of
> trouble.
Sue was following a medical marijuana trial at the
Sacramento
> County courthouse when she noticed a couple of
state drug enforcement
> officers in the hallway talking to a
county prosecutor. "They were right
> there in the hall, no
jurors were around, so I took their picture," Sue
> said. The
cops and prosecutor were furious. They rushed into the
courtroom
> of Judge Judy Holzer Hersher and demanded that
Sue's camera be confiscated.
> A bailiff took the camera.
Holzer Hersher scheduled a hearing. At the
> hearing, Sue
claimed she was within her rights to snap the photo in a
public
> place outside the courtroom. The prosecutor argued
the photo could expose
> the cops' identities. The judge
didn't buy it. She ruled if the agents were
> worried about
their secrecy, they shouldn't have been hanging around the
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hallway. Sue got her camera back. Film, too.
...
This goes for all Narco-Nazis, send their
pictures and names, we will post it. Likewise for Rats like Father
Nazarene and Scott Imler, send their pics.......
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Here's a List
of DEA offices throughout the U.S.
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Why is Scott
Imler a rat? From what little I knew of him I just figured he was
stupid, and I found his criticisms of Dennis
disingenuous...
...but that doesn't make him a rat, does it?
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Well I won't
say anything bad about someone who helped save my life. That would
be bad karma for me.
Let's not be getting all bitchy on each
other when we're about to go into battle against the real enemy.
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If you want
Scott's picture, I took one at the vigil for the LACRC club that he
organized when our club got shut down by the people who hate all of
us, you and me and him and everyone else.
http://www.vasilisa.com/vigil/index.html
You
guys have plenty of weed in BC, please have a little empathy for
people trying to do their best to survive deep behind enemy lines in
the Reich.
Maybe save your anger for the book you can write
after the war is over?
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Scott narked
on Todd McCormick and Peter McWilliams, collaborating with the
Narco-Nazis, stating to the DEA how Peter planned to be the Bill
Gates of Marijuana. Note there was no arrests after Imler's club got
shut down, gee I wonder why that was. Check out Imler's statements
on MTV, is this a friend to the cause. Sorry, Viperella, but I think
it is important for us to know whose who, and if your spouse was
facing ten years because of Imler's collaborating with the
Narco-Nazis, then maybe you would feel a little different. If you
know him, ask Scott yourself what took place, anybody I know who has
asked hasn't recieved an answer.
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In war people
have to make decisions that hurt other people. They have to choose
to hurt one group of people or to hurt another. It's part of the
horror of war.
And your own precious son wouldn't be on this
Earth if these awful events had not transpired.
There were no
arrests at the LACRC because the DEA never succeeded in planting an
agent inside the club because the club's intake procedures were so
rigorous and so consistently enforced that all the DEA agents were
successfully weeded out.
The club didn't get busted because
of evidence gathered from inside the club by DEA agents. The club
was raided based on evidence that Scott himself quite unwittingly
supplied to a secret Congressional task force that he didn't realize
had been formed to target medcal marijuana. And if you listen to
Scott's speech at the vigil, you can hear him take responsibility
for that fairly whopping mistake.
The US Attorney has taken
the case prepared from the evidence seized by the DEA on Oct. 25 to
the a grand jury TWICE trying to get an indictment of Scott. The
reason why Scott has not been indicted is because the citizens on
the grand jury have so far refused to indict him, because they had
reams of hard evidence before them that the club never sold pot to
anyone who wasn't certified as medically legit.
Rejections
from two grand juries in a row is a very embarassing blow for
Ashcroft that he is trying to keep quiet. The Supreme Court decision
is being quietly nullified by conservative LA voters on the grand
jury!!!!
The reason why Scott is free now is because the Bush
administration cannot get a group of LA grand jurors to take the
case to prosecution.
And for that he should be congratulated,
because that is happening in LA, which is the power center of
conservative California.
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Well the truth
of the matter is, that your right if Scott and our mutual
aquaintance L.O. had decided not to cooporate (collaborate) with the
DEA, Renee and I would likeley never have met. Considering how L.O.
burned me of 5 years of work, I do find it ironic that it has been
reported to me he was a witness against Todd also,(From Todd himself
and others) and that he is also listed as a witness against Renee, I
do indeedfind the shituation compiled with ironies. The Lord does
indeed work in mysterious ways. Either way, you make a D.E.A.l with
the D.E.A.vil, the D.E.A.vil is going to get you. Imler seems to be
as guilty of collaborating with the Narco-Nazis, as some Jews were
with collaborating with the Third Riech. The fact is Peter
McWilliam's is dead, choking to death on his own vomit after being
denied his cannabis medicine, Todd McCormick has been suffering in
Jail for over 3 years, Renee's case has reached the White House
Level and they are basically threatening Trade sanctions if she is
not handed over. And who is the Judas who turned them over for the
safety of his own club? Defending Imler's actions are like thanking
Judas for the crucixion of Christ. I'd love to hear what he has to
say in his own defense of this matter, and we can arrange for an
interview with the Kubby's on Pot TV if he's interested in stating
his side of the story.
Next Direct Action on Pot TV may include
a segment with your picture of Imler and a discussion of
integrity......
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Do you folks
have anything planned for the June 6th Direct Action?
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And every day
that I wake up to the perpetual reign of harshness that is this war,
I remember how wonderful the LA club was and I thank Scott for
having given me at least that much island of safety in my life and I
feel very encouraged that two grand juries gathered from the people
I see around me every day told Ashcroft to shove it and refused to
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Defending
Imler's actions are like thanking Judas for the crucixion of Christ.
Um do you remember at all that there are lives of sick
people at stake here? Where is the singular personality here who can
be annointed as Christ? I don't get this analogy at all. Is Peter Mc
Willaims Christ all of a sudden? I don't get that.
His life
was never the only one at stake. Lives were also at stake for people
who made no choice at all. Peter made a choice. Most people served
by the LA club were in the no choose part of the game.
This
is like talking about what happened back in the French Resistance
where you couldn't save everyone so you made the hard choices and
saved the ones you were most promised to save.
So a partisan
commander died, and one fighter is a POW and the other is a
refugee.
Please don't forget about the village that was
saved, becasue I luive in that village myself. I'm in the no choose
position. I'm not about to annoint as Christ someone who had plenty
of choices and very happily made them.
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Do you
folks have anything planned for the June 6th Direct
Action?
Scott spent five years fighting for me, so
Thursday I'm going to go out and fight for him.
I'm not
paying much attention to what everyone else is doing down here
because I want to make my own personal statement to those assholes
this time around.
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I'm glad to
hear your going to be active June 6th. I wasn't comparing Peter or
anybody else to Christ, but rather Imler to Judas. His statements to
the American Public on MTV about marijuana being a harmful drug that
is abused, but a good medicine for him and his patients, is enough
to show where he is at, he is willing to sell good people out to the
enemy for a personell victory. Slimey, slimey, slimey. There is an
old saying, nobody talks, everybody walks. Imler provided Peter's
death song to the DEA, Peter and Todd's crime was befriending Imler.
Peter is dead, Todd in prison, and Renee is on the run. Imler, he
benefitted, and prey tell, how did betraying Peter and coaborating
with the enemy do anybody any good? Peter and Todd were both
patients as well. What do you see that they did wrong? Grow
marijuana? Sounds like you'd be likely to turn on others if your
neck was on the block as well. Integrity is something we should all
plan on taking to the grave with us, Scott Imler sold his integrity
to the DEAvil, sounds like you suported that decision.
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His
statements to the American Public on MTV about marijuana being a
harmful drug that is abused, but a good medicine for him and his
patients, is enough to show where he is at, he is willing to sell
good people out to the enemy for a personell victory. Slimey,
slimey, slimey
If that's his opinion, shouldn't he be
allowed to say it? He is a Methodist. That is the temperance
religion. Are we suddenly against free speech and free religion and
now we're going to operate on party loyalty alone?
Sounds
Bolshevik to me. Party loyalty is not what this is supposed to be
about. What happened to the freedom part?
Integrity is
something we should all plan on taking to the grave with us, Scott
Imler sold his integrity to the DEAvil, sounds like you suported
that decision.
I never had anything to do with it. I was
never informed about it or asked my opinion in any way.
All I
said was that I was in the village that was saved. So I benefited
from it.
So should I go out and shoot myself right now to
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No, but you
shouldn't defend a rat like Imler either.
"He is a Methodist.
That is the temperance religion."
You think this somehow
justifies Scott's ratting on Peter and Todd? Give me a big
break.
Everybody has their right to an opinion. But if they
make a statement such as marijuana is a dangerous addictive drug
that is abused, in order to make their own medicinal use legitimate,
then they are not someone we sould be supporting as a movement. And
you will find few in this movement who support Imler. His name is
Mud. As Dennis Perron said all use is medicinal. Cannabis is good,
Prohibition is bad, period.
As the Herbal Holocaust gets
worse and the Narco-Nazis begin their harvest of Amerika's sick and
dying, tell Imler and L.O. that "France" is not an option for
collaborators and the "French Resistance Movement" here will not be
welcoming them if they decide to come our way.
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"He is a
Methodist. That is the temperance religion."
You think this
somehow justifies Scott's ratting on Peter and Todd? Give me a big
break.
I made that comment in refernce to his MTV
comments, which were his own opinion that he had the right to
make.
Please don't twist my words or take them out of context
or I will start to take this very personally.
As the
Herbal Holocaust gets worse and the Narco-Nazis begin their harvest
of Amerika's sick and dying, tell Imler and L.O. that "France" is
not an option for collaborators and the "French Resistance Movement"
here will not be welcoming them if they decide to come our
way.
So you just told me that I am not welcome in Canada.
Good for you.
But Scott was waiting for the grand jury to
indict him for many months and he could have gone to Canada at any
time and he stayed here waiting for the ax to drop.
But you
know, don't forget that the sick and dying being harvested includes
me more than it does you.
Between you and me, which is
the one of us that has a progressive terminal illness?
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Hi guys. I
respectfully disagree with chris on one point - fate and destination
could very well have brought u and renee together, irregardless of
external world realities. I can think of tons of examples where it
would be so, but you know enough about the ways of spirit to know
that the power of love transgresses all space, time and reality. My
wife and I knew of each other's presence since childhood and the
geographic location we were each in. eventually we moved next to
each other and instantly recognized each other when we met. it took
many strange circumstance to make our paths cross but she is my soul
mate and eventually the magnetism of our celestial attraction could
ne'er be hindered by a prime material happenstance :)
other than
that i agree with chris that all narcs suck and should definately be
identified and ostracized, specifically because they are traitors
which makes them soldiers of the enemy. I bless and pray for my
enemies, if they saw the light of god and were truly blessed with
the power of the white light / god, they wouldn't do the wicked evil
things they do to us, the little yellow fairy people, the friends of
flowers. Despite my prayers for their salvation i will always
believe in self defense, narcs are evil Gollum like creatures who
certainly shouldnt be allowed the good grace of our company. freedom
of association says we can choose to not interact with those we
don't want to.
God Bless Peter McW may he rest in peace and
love. God bless protect heal and liberate Todd, our poor suffering
friend. God bless protect and heal Renee Shiva and Chris, may they
be carried in the white light. May the power of the anhk grant them
safe passage thru the shift of the aeons. a-ho smudge smoke prayers
pf protection come to you and yours with this post. the prayers also
extend the all the unknown, faceless victims of this bloody war.
a-ho!
mitakuye oyasin (we are all related)
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"I made that
comment in refernce to his MTV comments, which were his own opinion
that he had the right to make.
Please don't twist my words or
take them out of context or I will start to take this very
personally."
My mistake, I hate it when people do that to me,
like you did with your comment "Well you go tell Marc that you just
told me that I am not welcome in Canada."
So then do you
think justifies Imler's actions and the results from it of Todd's
incarceration and Peter's death? If he hadn't decided to collaborate
with the DEA, don't you think Peter and Todd would have supported
him in any resulting trials against him and the club? We will never
know how different the outcome may have been for everybody involved
if Imler had any integrity.
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Thank you for
your prayers and kind words my brother.
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Would I have
any integrity if I didn't defend the person who has put his own neck
before the feds to help me?
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If he
hadn't decided to collaborate with the DEA, don't you think Peter
and Todd would have supported him in any resulting trials against
him and the club?
He never decided to collaborate with
the DEA. He was summoned before a grand jury and asked questions
under penalty of perjury. Those are two completely different
things.
If you were thinking like a journalist you would have
a big Pot TV story now that said
IMLER BREAKS ASHCRFOT'S
BALLS IN LA
about the fact that two grand juries have been
summoned and so far neither one has voted to indict him.
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don't you
think Peter and Todd would have supported him in any resulting
trials against him and the club?
And by the way, so what
if they would have supported Scott?
What Scott cared about
was not who would support him, but who would support the over 1000
seriously ill people who depended on him.
This isn't some
contest about men supporting each other. Part of it is about whether
people live or die.
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One man is
dead already and that's Peter McWilliams, who like Todd McCormick
was also a patient. How did testifying against Peter and Todd save
1000 patients? It seems like your comparing somebody to Jesus
yourself, excepet this Imler-Jesus sacrifices others in his place,
willing or not. Narc, Narc. Whose there? Scott. Scott-free that's
who and others take the rap.
"This isn't some contest about
men supporting each other."
That's pathetic, you had to pull the
femenist baggage out of the hat. So women sell each other out and
that's OK, is that the message your trying to give here. I know
lot's of sisters who will disagre on that one.
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Here's a
picture of a fellow who thinks it's OK to cooporate with the DEA and
testify against people for growing cannabis and that his medicinal
use is OK but if you are using it for any other reason you deserve
jail time.
Hopefully for our brothers and sisters south of the
border, rats like him are few and far between, as the DEA will use
as many people like Imler against us as possible.
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Well maybe you
can a little bit of happiness out of the fact that Scott was just
indicted in tax evasion and now faces life in prison.
There
will be a press conference and rally tomorrow June 5th at 1pm in
front of the WeHo club.
Civil disobedience to
follow.
I hope that makes you feel better. Does that even the
score?
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And I'm
guessing that since you hate Scott so much, you will not want the
footage for Pot TV of this event that I intend to shoot tomorrow on
my DV?
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"Well maybe
you can a little bit of happiness out of the fact that Scott was
just indicted in tax evasion and now faces life in prison." Life in
prison for tax evasion? That sounds a little curious. How much was
Scott pulling in at the LA Club and if he was doing everything so
legit as he claimed, why wasn't he paying his taxes. Thats one of
Marc's secrets to sucess, pay the tax man. (Personally I hate the
tax man and think it's plain extortion).
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How about some
footage of the June 6th Direct Action from that area instead, it's
in support of patients not Narc Imler.
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How about
some footage of the June 6th Direct Action from that area instead,
it's in support of patients not Narc Imler.
Chris I think
you are rather out of line to suggest that it is up to you up there
in Canada, and not up to the actual patients who are in LA, to
decide who and what is in support of the patients here.
I've
pretty much canceled what I'm going to do because of the extra work
now. The other June 6th action planned is going to be, sorry to say
this, very tame and inoffensive.
The hottest ticket in town
is going to be at the LACRC today. That is not going to be tame and
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And by the
way, I was narc'ed out pretty big myself in a major way when I was a
young successful enterprising soul at 16, and I have known what a
real narc is since then. I've had their demon breath in my face and
I have worn their handcuffs and sat on thier dirty stairs and spit
out their water on the floor.
I had more narcs on my ass at a
younger age than most people here on this board, that I can say
without blinking.
I'm not just a patient, I've been in the
cuffs with the task force on the evening news too.
So I think
I've earned the right to protest on this ground too about calling
Scott a narc.
You can call him someone who made a decision
that you think was very wrong, but I've been taken down by real
narcs and I don't think it's wise or fair to call him THAT.
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And if you're
wondering who it could have been who did collaborate with the DEA --
what about the half million people who knew about what Peter and
Todd were doing? It's not like it was the World's Most Secret
Grow.
Elaine Pagels wrote a great book about the New
Testament called the Origin of Satan, about all of the malevolent
energy that got started in early Christianity when people forgot the
whol meaning of the struggle against the Roman occupation, and
started to obsess on who narced Christ to the Romans.
Which
in the end was a meaningless question because it was God who did the
deed. Father take this cup from me.
But still the Christians
spent hundreds of years beating and torturing Jews because they
fervently believed that the Jews narced Christ.
They forgot
all about the Roman occupation and even started to become it
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No danger of
that here, we know who the enemy is, and who has collaborated with
them. Funny how few of those other "half million" people who knew
about the grow testified against Todd and Peter. The only ones I
know of are the ones Todd and other sources told me about, Scott
Imler and L.O. . But then of course there is people lie Viperella
here that think narking on patients is OK.
The origins of Satan
begin with the loss of integrity, looks like you've begun that
journey yourself Viperella. Nobody in the movement of any
integrityis going to cover a Narc Imler protest, your on your own in
La La Land.
You must feel empathy for Scott for some reason,
and this could be interpreted that unde the same circumstances you
would Narc on thers as well. And please stop comparing Narc Imler to
Jesus, Jesus never Narced on anybody, he had integrity!
And if
you don't like Narc, how about Rat, Traitor, Betrayer, Sell Out or
DEA Mole.
How much money does Imler owe in Back Taxes to get
a Life Sentence? How much money was Scott the Rat making of LA's
sick and dying after he ratted on Todd and Peter? Sounds like we
have another case like Father Nazarene, where the biggest concern
was maintaining control of the profit from a prosperous medical
marijuana club.
There are ots of hero's inthe California
movement, Scott is definately not one of them, maybe you should find
one of the many with integrity and jump Scott the Sell-Out
"Marijuana is a dangerous addictive drug" Imler's sinking ship.
Thanks though through are correspondence others have been educated
about Imler and you've exposed the wishy-washy nature of your own
integrity. Basically your saying it's OK to rat to get out of a bad
situation.
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Nineteen club
members have died since the DEA raid Oct. 25.
Is that enough
blood to even the score and satisfy your grudge?
If not, then
how many more lives do you need?
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You
must feel empathy for Scott for some reason, and this could be
interpreted that unde the same circumstances you would Narc on thers
as well.
This is one of the dirtiest ugliest nastiest
most paranoid unust and hurtful thing anyone has ever said to me in
my entire life.
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I think that
under these circumstances I can only leave this board.
You
can censor the marijuana news all you want.
There's a hunger
strike and encampment starting today, but hey nobody needs to find
out about that.
It's only a bunch of sick people that you
hate.
So why should anyone else be informed about what's
going on in LA?
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In reply to:
The origins of Satan begin with the loss of integrity, looks
like you've begun that journey yourself Viperella.
Holy condemnation. Holy holier-than-thou attitude. A
journey to what? This sounds like a line from the Church Lady from
SNL. The intolerant like to protect themselves with righteousness
IMHO.
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"Nineteen club
members have died since the DEA raid Oct. 25. Is that enough blood
to even the score and satisfy your grudge?If not, then how many more
lives do you need."
How do you twist that I have a score to
settle with LA patients out of what I said about Imler? I totally
support patients and if you make them the issue and not a know Rat,
then we will galdly play any piece you send. In fact we will even
play a piece of Imler, but we will also report his relation to the
cases of Todd and Peter at the same time.
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Well Squilly,
Hell is not in my cosmology, so I certainly don't mean that. Evil
lies in the hearts of men, and the journey into evil nature begins
with the loss of integrity. That is unless you think narcing on and
testifying against members of the cannabis comunity like the late
Peter McWilliams (who died as a result) and the incarcerated Todd
McCormick, is OK.
How do you feel about that issue
Squilly?
Here's my self-righteous proclamation
"Though shalt
not narc on thy neighbor, for to narc on one's neighbor is to narc
on one's self."
Anybody who can't live with that one need not
apply.....
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I take no side
here on the issue. I understand your position on this, at least I
think I do. We are after all, just words on a page aren't we here?
Can someone else's opinion infuriate you this much?
That
sounds funny coming from me, we once had little flame war going
ourselves a year ago or so. I think Viperella got your message.
Let's say I picked up on it. Now, can we all get
along?
Peace.
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How do you
twist that I have a score to settle with LA patients out of what I
said about Imler? I totally support patients
You're a
fucking goddamned liar. I'm a patient and you don't give the tiniest
rat's ass about my survival or well being. You don't give a damn
about anyone at the LACRC.
Because Sciott is all you care
about. Not me, not my life and not the lives of anyone who depends
on him.
You use patients as political props. Someone else to
rant about and hit people over the head with. You don't have an
ounce of mercy or compassion to speak of.
Here are some
patients fighting for survival, who are they standing with? I don't
see you in this picture.
Mary Luceym, hunger striker
Pedro
Jimenez, hunger striker
His
doctor gave him six months to live
The
LACRC hunger strikers all in a row
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Nineteen of my
friends die and all you care about is narc narc narc narc
narc.
Who were those nineteen people? You don't give a
fucking damn because none of them was Scott.
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I totally
support patients and if you make them the issue and not a know Rat,
then we will galdly play any piece you send.
Nineteen
people died and you don't miss one beat, it's narc narc narc narc
narc.
I can't send you anything of mine now, out of respect
to the nineteen people you just elbowed aside for your vendetta.
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"not the lives
of anyone who depends on him." Nobody's life depends on Scott Imler,
please stop comparing him to Jesus. (Well, in hindsight, maybe
Peter's life depended on Imler's not testifying against him, to bad
Scott narced).
As for putting it on the line anony-mouse, I've
been doing that for more than a decade in BC. A decade ago our pot
laws here were more stringent than the US's. Do a search on Chris
Bennett and marijuana and see how much info comes up.
Maybe
you should try putting it on the line anony-mouse, stop your
squeaking and come on out of the closet. Those dying patients need
you to bravely and proudly stand up for them as we do here at Pot
TVand the BC Marijuana Party everyday. Out of the closet Viperella,
don't be a squeaky complaining anony-mouse, stand up for your rights
and the rights of the patients you seem to be missing behind your
focus on Narc Imler. You are the one focussing on him instead of the
patients, not me and it is really sad how you perpetuate the idea to
others and yourself, that somehow your survival depends on it.
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Cover the
protest and either don't mention Imler, or if you do, mention that
he testified against Peter McWilliams and Todd McCormick and that he
cooperated or rather collaborated with the DEA in the investigation
against Todd. As well check out his comments on the MTV bit where he
calls marijuana a dangerous addictive drug, and play that alongside
it.
Imler will not be made a hero of on Pot TV.
>From:
Steve Kubby <steve@kubby.com>
>To: Chris Bennett
<freeshiva@hotmail.com>
>Subject: FW: Footage of LACRC
rally
>Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:46:28
-0700
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>Hey Chris,
>
>I know and trust you.
I don't know this person and I've avoided Imler since
>he hung
us up on in the 215 campaign. Still this is a bona fide news
story,
>so please give me your professional advice on how
you'd like to see this
>covered, or not
covered.
>
>No explanations necessary, just tell my what
you'd like to do about
this.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve
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>From:
anony-mouse>
>Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:09:23
-0700
>To: steve@kubby.com
>Subject: Footage of LACRC
rally
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>Dear Steve,
>
>I have really great
footage of the LACRC rally and hunger strike but I
>don't
think I can send to you, because Chris Bennett doesn't care at
all
>about the nineteen patients who have died since the club
closed, he only
>cares about whether Todd and Peter were
narced by Scott.
>
>I do not want the lives of those
nineteen people to be disrespected
>because Pot Tv has a
grudge against Scott.
>
>So I cannot send you what I
have, sorry. I can't risk it being used as
>some kind of Chris
Bennett rant against Scott the evil DEA narc and that
>would
be a nasty horrible way to treat the patients, living and
dead,
>who have depended so enormously on Scott for these six
years.
>
>Patricia
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>--
>Er nennt's
Vernunft und braucht's allein,
>Nur tierischer als jedes Tier
zu sein.
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Goethe
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Imler needs to
stop hiding behind patients. Narcing on fellow activists is
unacceptable. I'd be happy to see Imler interviewed on Pot TV news,
to state his case, and then as well we could have Todd McCormick on
to state his. That opportunity is always open.
But why was
one person in control of the whole LA Club? Instead of a cooperative
who would still have it? Why was the building in his name instead of
a collective society? How much money was he making of the patients
to get threatened with a life sentence for tax-evasion. There are
many questions here.
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As Dennis
Perron said all use is medicinal.
Dennis said it after I
said it to him.
What I said was, "Recreation is necessary for
good health. Therefore, recreational use is medicinal."
And
Dennis saw the elegant simplicity of the logic and to my shock and
astonishment began saying it to the press within days.
Of
course, we both agreed that in order to secure the center you must
push to the left, but I couldn't believe he did
that...
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Well maybe
you can a little bit of happiness out of the fact that Scott was
just indicted in tax evasion and now faces life in
prison.
I don't know the details, but did they use the
financial records he kept against him? That's one thing I remember,
him criticizing Dennis for not keeping scrupulous financial records.
Poor Scott, Dennis was smart enough to know to not give them
anything to use against him he didn't absolutely have
to.
Another thing Scott didn't seem to get is that by opening
up The Club as much as possible, Dennis created a political
movement. When The Club was busted 25,000 people (in a city of about
700,000) were affected. Enough to get them, their friends, and their
families mad enough to pack the streets with 100s of thousands of
people night after night after the bust...oh what a time that
was...
I never visited the L.A. Club, but from what I've
heard it was very sterile and oppressive. Could you even smoke and
socialize there? The creation of community & family at The Club
were integral to its success both as a facility for healing and as a
political apparatus.
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Father take
this cup from me.
How does this imply Jesus' problems
were God's fault?
The words could as well be interpreted as a
futile plea - one he knew was futile but in his agony what else
could he say?
I think when Jesus said he died for 'our' sins
he could just as well have been accusing as forgiving.-
j'accuse.
I suppose a wolf would interpret the curse of the
lamb as a forgiveness and blessing...
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"Though
shalt not narc on thy neighbor, for to narc on one's neighbor is to
narc on one's self."
My crazy-tweaker-bitch neighbor
tried to narc on me last week. I showed the police videos of her
screaming at me through my window, showed them my plants, and they
suggested I get a restraining order (which I now have) and a voice
activated recording program to write my book
Unfortunately,
last night one of my tires blew about 100 yards outside the parking
lot and when a friend and I came to change it the next day we
discovered all the nuts were loose as well. And when I got the car
to the tire store, I asked them to check...and all the nuts on every
wheel were loose.
...I've been going through Hell but I did
manage to show the police my pot for June 6th and got a restraining
order against the crazy-tweaker-snitch-bitch next door...
Now
if I can just get her screaming at me on video once...she lives next
door and is required to stay 10 yards from me.
The hearing
for a 3-year restraining order is on the 20th. It should be
interesting...
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I think this
is all been a very distasteful attack on the Los Angeles Cannabis
Resource Centre by Chris Bennett. I understand Chris Bennett has a
very personal stake in the McWilliams-McCormack-Bojee situation, of
which Scott Imler was asked to testify at the McCormack trial. I
understand the controversy.
However, it is also true that
hundreds, perhaps more people have been directly dependent and
affected by Scott Imler's work on behalf of Los Angeles medical
patients and it saddens me to see a patient (Viperella) have to make
such a heartfelt plea to POT-TV.net for us to simply cover the
action presently going on in L.A. The lady can only talk about her
experience, and the experience of her colleagues battling to save
the club and rally around the person who has helped them. This is
what they are doing. The politics of purity will destroy our
movement, and so we must focus on what is happening now, what
actions being done NOW and give our solidarity to that.
I
don't want anyone currently doing good work on behalf of people in
need to be denigrated. Personal grievances may have a time somewhere
in our golden future, but as of now, no more name calling or
denigrating activists in the midst pof crisis. I expect all staff
and colleagues involved in all our media here to be supportive and
to bury animosities in favour of movement solidarity.
I
admire the lady (Viperella) and it tears me up to see her heart torn
up here on these forums while all her energy should rightly go to
defending the person and persons who have helped her and her fellow
patients. I'm embarrassed about this and I trust all effort will be
supportive henceforth.
My apologies, Viperella, please carry
on. I await word of your situation, and may Good things transpire in
your struggle.
Marc Emery
POT-TV.net
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